Cobra4B

Jet-Hot and HPC are all owned by the same company... it's all the same shit now. This is for my Corvette which isn't a race car. I'd coating them for looks first, heat control second. Shiney headers with red Katech valve covers will look sexy

travisnd

Bout time you cared about shiney parts under the hood!!

Cobra4B

You've finally rubbed off on me

BAD4DR

If you have a sand blaster, and/or a spray booth, you can get setup with Tech Line coatings to do their coatings. This is what Thermal is using, it's also what HPC uses, last I checked.

You can order yourself from Tech Line's site, but simply put, a 120 grit surface doesn't appeal to most people, and the flaking problems and inability to adhere sound a LOT like the company used a finer grit blast media.....

The ones developing pin-holes sound EXACTLY like what Tech Line told me would happen to parts if I used bead blast! Apparently, the glass becomes "embedded" to an extent, and chooses to flake away when hot, creating that effect. I spent a few hours on the phone with them trying to decide what coatings would be best for my application, getting all the info for applying properly, etc....

PREP, is everything....

Cobra4B

Interesting... sounds like a plausible theory. I'm just going to send the new headers directly to Jet-Hot to get coated.

These won't see the road course so they won't be subjected to the stresses that my Kooks were.

Fabrik8

Thermal Tech uses Tech Line or something similar, yes. HPC is a manufacturer and produces their own products. They are a direct competitor to Tech Line. The chemistry is different I'm pretty sure, Tech Line makes water borne coatings (which is why you can apply them yourself) and HPC uses a different type of coating process. I don't think it's a PVD process like Zircotec uses, but I don't remember. Might be some other type of solvent chemistry (not water based).

BAD4DR

Tech line makes both water soluble (home use) and commercial coatings.
They in fact, supply 95% of the industry, including HPC (I asked). There are 2 other manufacturers, doing less than 5% of the coatings out there. If I could remember off the top of my head, I'd tell you who.
But HPC, Thermal, etc., are using the commercial, solvent based tech-line coatings. Hence why so many offer exactly the same degree levels, etc....

Check out the Tech Line site.

kenbdSi

Thermal Tec did my exhaust mani. Nice price as well!

Fabrik8

Well, regardless of what you've been told, HPC is a coating manufacturer. Who knows, maybe their low line stuff for aftermarket car parts is bought from Tech Line, I have no idea. That really wouldn't make sense considering that HPC makes 50 or so different coatings, so they are apparently capable of engineering and manufacturing their own products. I'm still not convinced that a ceramic coating manufacturer would be using a ceramic coating from another manufacturer. They aren't a job shop like Thermal Tech.

I think HPC was a coatings supplier before Tech Line existed according to what I just found. They were only a few years apart but still, it doesn't speak to your facts being correct.


I'm not saying that one company makes better products, I'm just saying that your claims about Tech Line supplying HPC just don't add up.

I can imagine that Tech Line has a big market share, because of their DIY products and their large 3rd party coating network, but I think a lot of the 95% blah blah is just marketing spin that applies to some small subsection of the overall ceramic coating pie. That's the fun thing about marketing statistics, you usually don't get enough information to see the big picture.


And FYI, the formulation of the coating fillers and substrates set the physical properties. Different companies who both manufacture coatings with the same chemistry and/or fillers will have coatings with very similar properties. Note that there isn't only one company that makes paint, or plastic, or rubber, etc.

marlinspike

An old thread, I know, but did you ever send the stuff to Jet Hot Cobra? I ask because my Jet Hot coated headers are starting to show rust from underneath as they pit away. I called Jet Hot, they told me it'd be warrantied, but the person who sent them to them the first time would have to send it to them again for it to be covered...well that person was a shop that I'm no longer on speaking terms with...suffice it to say, no more Jet Hot for me. That and I guy I know with a motorcycle had his exhaust done by Jet Hot (3 times or so) and it kept getting sandblasted away.