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Old 02-03-2009, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGentleArt
So you are against the war on drugs? You think it cost pointless lives? The cops could of slaughtered him for shooting one of there own, but they did not. War on drugs isn't a war on weed, its a war on all drugs including weed, there are more drug related homocides then any other reason, id say its a worthy cause.

I am sorry but if police are surrounding my house and then my door bust open, i am going to think its the cops, not drug dealers?

He does seem remourseful, i hope that he doesn't get off (and he won't) but maybe not capital murder, maybe a reduced charge such as voluntary manslaughter or something like that.
Nope, didn't say that. I said their war on drugs claimed another pointless life. Then made a joke about our last successful war.

Whether it's literal or figurative, there is no reason to declar ware on non-violent crimes. There is no reason to use tactics reserved for terrorists and hard criminals. To have individuals' lives wasted in an overzealous state where a simple possession of can lead to a felony... that is wrong.

It is wrong that a police officer had to die.

I'm sorry, if i'm sleeping and my door bursts open, no matter what, I am most likely going to shoot you.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGentleArt
So you are against the war on drugs? You think it cost pointless lives? The cops could of slaughtered him for shooting one of there own, but they did not. War on drugs isn't a war on weed, its a war on all drugs including weed, there are more drug related homocides then any other reason, id say its a worthy cause.

I am sorry but if police are surrounding my house and then my door bust open, i am going to think its the cops, not drug dealers?

He does seem remourseful, i hope that he doesn't get off (and he won't) but maybe not capital murder, maybe a reduced charge such as voluntary manslaughter or something like that.
Exactly.

Marijuana takes up 4/5ths of the drugs on the street/users, leaving 1/5th for crack, heroin, meth, PCP, shrooms, extacy, ect.

So you don't think legalizing Marijuana would drop the murder/crime rate significantly along with allowing hemp to help the economy. Win/Win situation if you ask me.


Originally Posted by Walmart Cowboy
I think he's not guilty. He shot in self defense.

No Knock raids are fucking rediculous, unconstitutional, and stupid.
Bingo.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by idkfa
Whether it's literal or figurative, there is no reason to declar ware on non-violent crimes.
Obviously it can lead to violence. I mean, this kid shot someone over his harmless-ass weed.
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Originally Posted by dave22
Obviously it can lead to violence. I mean, this kid shot someone over his harmless-ass weed.
Well at that point, he was probably in the same mind frame I would of been. I hurt/kill them or they hurt/kill me? (If he HONESTLY didn't know it was the police, but if I knew it was the cops and shot anyways... well then thats where you fucked up)
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:02 PM
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And if he didn't have a garage full of weed at some point everyone would still be alive, no?
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dave22
Obviously it can lead to violence. I mean, this kid shot someone over his harmless-ass weed.
Incorrect. This kid shot someone because he thought his house was being broken into and he didnt know what they would do when they found him inside of it.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Walmart Cowboy
Incorrect. This kid shot someone because he thought his house was being broken into and he didnt know what they would do when they found him inside of it.
Because they broke into his shit days before. For his weed.
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Originally Posted by dave22
And if he didn't have a garage full of weed at some point everyone would still be alive, no?
I heard on the radio they found no Marijuana during the bust.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dave22
Because they broke into his shit days before. For his weed.
So charge him with drug posession and drop the murder. Simple solution for an apparently simple problem.
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Originally Posted by 1Bar EM1
I heard on the radio they found no Marijuana during the bust.
It was gone by the time the cops got there. Most likely stolen during the earlier break-in.
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