srt4 at select wheels is a POS
06-10-2008, 04:49 AM
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chris- If a 50 trim is installed and tuned properly the drivability of it is great the problem is alot of these are done incorrectly or not tuned correctly. The stage 3 kit just cost to much for what you get, its great for someone who has no idea what they are doing and just wants to take it to a shop and be like here install this but other then that its just not going to make the power that some of the big turbos will make. But as miguel said already there are alot of options for the stage three as well as the stock turbo as far as porting and such. I have even seen some of these options do better then big turbos at the track because of the low end spool and such but if you decide on building the motor and getting a race built head there is nothing that will pull like a big turbo its kinda all in what you want really.
oh and miguel dont put the stockers back on leave the rims they look nice.
oh and miguel dont put the stockers back on leave the rims they look nice.
06-10-2008, 09:13 AM
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Re: srt4 at select wheels is a POS
chris- If a 50 trim is installed and tuned properly the drivability of it is great the problem is alot of these are done incorrectly or not tuned correctly. The stage 3 kit just cost to much for what you get, its great for someone who has no idea what they are doing and just wants to take it to a shop and be like here install this but other then that its just not going to make the power that some of the big turbos will make. But as miguel said already there are alot of options for the stage three as well as the stock turbo as far as porting and such. I have even seen some of these options do better then big turbos at the track because of the low end spool and such but if you decide on building the motor and getting a race built head there is nothing that will pull like a big turbo its kinda all in what you want really.
oh and miguel dont put the stockers back on leave the rims they look nice.
oh and miguel dont put the stockers back on leave the rims they look nice.
but back to the question, .63 A/R or .48 A/R?......for mixed street/drag.
06-10-2008, 09:33 AM
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if you have issues with a 50 trims turbo lag then somethings not right. My turbo which is larger then a 50 trim is at full spool by 3300 or so and ive seen 50 trims spool right at 3200 so with that being said.
I dont think you need a .48 A/R to spool anything faster on the srt this isn't a 1.8L at the end of the day its still a 2.4L and should spool just fine but you will always hear complaining about turbo lag when people put on big turbos and try to compare it to a TD04 so.. I dont see any disadvantages to going with a .48 over the .63 but then again i wont say i see a need to specifially choose the .48 A/R over the .63 A/R. Honestly my opinion on it is whichever floats your boat sail on!
I dont think you need a .48 A/R to spool anything faster on the srt this isn't a 1.8L at the end of the day its still a 2.4L and should spool just fine but you will always hear complaining about turbo lag when people put on big turbos and try to compare it to a TD04 so.. I dont see any disadvantages to going with a .48 over the .63 but then again i wont say i see a need to specifially choose the .48 A/R over the .63 A/R. Honestly my opinion on it is whichever floats your boat sail on!
06-10-2008, 10:33 AM
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if you have issues with a 50 trims turbo lag then somethings not right. My turbo which is larger then a 50 trim is at full spool by 3300 or so and ive seen 50 trims spool right at 3200 so with that being said.
I dont think you need a .48 A/R to spool anything faster on the srt this isn't a 1.8L at the end of the day its still a 2.4L and should spool just fine but you will always hear complaining about turbo lag when people put on big turbos and try to compare it to a TD04 so.. I dont see any disadvantages to going with a .48 over the .63 but then again i wont say i see a need to specifially choose the .48 A/R over the .63 A/R. Honestly my opinion on it is whichever floats your boat sail on!
I dont think you need a .48 A/R to spool anything faster on the srt this isn't a 1.8L at the end of the day its still a 2.4L and should spool just fine but you will always hear complaining about turbo lag when people put on big turbos and try to compare it to a TD04 so.. I dont see any disadvantages to going with a .48 over the .63 but then again i wont say i see a need to specifially choose the .48 A/R over the .63 A/R. Honestly my opinion on it is whichever floats your boat sail on!
06-10-2008, 12:59 PM
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it might make very close to the same numbers peak wise but on the top end it will fail more so then a larger A/R i mean less flow is less flow...
06-10-2008, 01:08 PM
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I ran a 50 trim on a 2L motor for years. This turbo is more than streetable depending on the application. I'd opt for the .63. Like stated, more airflow is more airflow. Why choke it up?
06-10-2008, 02:08 PM
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That is 
The SRT-4's were not built from the ground up. They were based off the already existing 2nd generation Neon platform, as were the PT Cruisers and the Caliber. All Dodge did was to take the shadetree mechanic's already proven concept of swapping in the Stratus 2.4L with turbo setup and throw big money engineering at it to make it commercially available instead of a project car. They also beefed up the suspension, transmission, added bigger rims and brakes, etc.
No matter, as it was based off of the Neon platform. Hence, the reason why in the last years before the Neon was replaced by the Caliber,the Neon was available with the SRT-4 upgrades as an OPTIONS package.
The SRT-4's were not built from the ground up. They were based off the already existing 2nd generation Neon platform, as were the PT Cruisers and the Caliber. All Dodge did was to take the shadetree mechanic's already proven concept of swapping in the Stratus 2.4L with turbo setup and throw big money engineering at it to make it commercially available instead of a project car. They also beefed up the suspension, transmission, added bigger rims and brakes, etc.
No matter, as it was based off of the Neon platform. Hence, the reason why in the last years before the Neon was replaced by the Caliber,the Neon was available with the SRT-4 upgrades as an OPTIONS package.
the SRT-4 uses the neon chassis. the Stratusfear was a concept car that failed, therefore the idea was re used but not the same drivetrain the SRT-4 ended up with. The SRT-4 program was spearheadd by one man who sketched a concpet and presented it to dodge exectives for permission to build a concept vehicle. they agreed, and with a small team they developed and tested the car and recieved a production green light from dodge. the engine, tranny, suspension brakes everything are unique from the ground up and not taken from the neon. the SRT-4 was built, marketed and sold as simply the Dodge SRT-4, with no use of the neon name. it was NOT and option package on the neon.
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That is
The SRT-4's were not built from the ground up. They were based off the already existing 2nd generation Neon platform, as were the PT Cruisers and the Caliber. All Dodge did was to take the shadetree mechanic's already proven concept of swapping in the Stratus 2.4L with turbo setup and throw big money engineering at it to make it commercially available instead of a project car. They also beefed up the suspension, transmission, added bigger rims and brakes, etc.
No matter, as it was based off of the Neon platform. Hence, the reason why in the last years before the Neon was replaced by the Caliber,the Neon was available with the SRT-4 upgrades as an OPTIONS package.
The SRT-4's were not built from the ground up. They were based off the already existing 2nd generation Neon platform, as were the PT Cruisers and the Caliber. All Dodge did was to take the shadetree mechanic's already proven concept of swapping in the Stratus 2.4L with turbo setup and throw big money engineering at it to make it commercially available instead of a project car. They also beefed up the suspension, transmission, added bigger rims and brakes, etc.
No matter, as it was based off of the Neon platform. Hence, the reason why in the last years before the Neon was replaced by the Caliber,the Neon was available with the SRT-4 upgrades as an OPTIONS package.
and since when is a stage 3 able to use a tial wastegate
06-10-2008, 03:28 PM
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So let me start off by stating if you dont like the car and think its a piece of shit then dont buy it period. As for the guy who stated the car is the same as a 2nd gen i would love for you to tell me in great detail why. There are so many differences it would take days for me to list them all it just really shows you have no idea what your talking about. There are weak points on every car and i wont sit here and say the srt-4 is the be all god of the compact world cause its not hondas have been doing what srt-4s have just begun to do, but i will say i dont see very many stock 4 banger motors running 500whp for 100+ drag passes with no issues, i mean to each there own.
Now on to helping slow...
Slowmr2 the best thing you could do when looking for an srt is to take someone with you who knows the ins and outs of the car. I will tell you that a stage 3 installed correctly is almost impossible to have issues with, the ecu and kit was built to be fool proof thats the way dodge wanted it. With that being said if you drove a stage 3 which i dont think you did by the tial wastegate comment then either something is wrong with the car or they are just simply misleading you. The stage 3 has no external wastegate at all unless its been fabricated to be this way, the stage 3 wastegate works like the stock internal setup. I have a feeling the dealership mislead you and you just didn't have the knowledge to know better which is ok we all start somewhere. Ok so lets say you did drive a stage 3 which has been altered to have an external wastegate setup chances are this was done because the turbo is a big wheel or ported out stocker which again gets us back to the highly modified car comments. I also would not buy a already modded car simply because you dont know what has been done to the car before you recieved it. But it will be hard to find an srt thats in stock form they just dont happen and are a rarity, so your best option is again to take someone who knows what to look for and knows what the car is doing. Chances are since its an 05 srt and the ecu is much much more intiative then the previous years the issues your speaking of are ecu related and likly a simple fix. Just research information and learn about the product your trying to buy before you do so. Here is a site which can provide you days worth of reading on the srt should you want to further your knowledge.... www.srtforums.com ... I am also willing to help you in any way with questions or concerns you might have shit ill even ride out there and look at the car with you and show you things.
But if you take nothing from this look here.
BIG TURBO > Staged car
Now on to helping slow...
Slowmr2 the best thing you could do when looking for an srt is to take someone with you who knows the ins and outs of the car. I will tell you that a stage 3 installed correctly is almost impossible to have issues with, the ecu and kit was built to be fool proof thats the way dodge wanted it. With that being said if you drove a stage 3 which i dont think you did by the tial wastegate comment then either something is wrong with the car or they are just simply misleading you. The stage 3 has no external wastegate at all unless its been fabricated to be this way, the stage 3 wastegate works like the stock internal setup. I have a feeling the dealership mislead you and you just didn't have the knowledge to know better which is ok we all start somewhere. Ok so lets say you did drive a stage 3 which has been altered to have an external wastegate setup chances are this was done because the turbo is a big wheel or ported out stocker which again gets us back to the highly modified car comments. I also would not buy a already modded car simply because you dont know what has been done to the car before you recieved it. But it will be hard to find an srt thats in stock form they just dont happen and are a rarity, so your best option is again to take someone who knows what to look for and knows what the car is doing. Chances are since its an 05 srt and the ecu is much much more intiative then the previous years the issues your speaking of are ecu related and likly a simple fix. Just research information and learn about the product your trying to buy before you do so. Here is a site which can provide you days worth of reading on the srt should you want to further your knowledge.... www.srtforums.com ... I am also willing to help you in any way with questions or concerns you might have shit ill even ride out there and look at the car with you and show you things.
But if you take nothing from this look here.
BIG TURBO > Staged car
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