Uzi Crooklyn

get a new broad.

Fabrik8

The dampers should be perfectly safe; that's easy to do. Well, assuming that you don't manufacture MacPherson piston shafts that break. Whether or not they actually do a rough approximation of their job as a damper is completely different. Spring failure is a higher risk...

I keep deleting and rewriting what to say in response to that.

Even though coilovers are sometimes overpriced, there are reasons why decent ones are expensive.

You can go to someplace like Monroe (are they still around?) and buy a OEM-fit strut for $19.95; it will support the weight of your car and will do its own interpretation of what it thinks damping is.

If you're looking for $19.95 worth of damping on each corner of the car, that may do perfectly fine for you.

If you want something that you can actually call 'damping', you'll have to pay more money.

If you want any of the four dampers to behave similarly to any of the other four, you'll have to pay more money. Same goes for the springs.

If you the damper to last any length of time and still do its own interpretation of what it thinks damping is, you have to pay more money. That nitrogen bladder inside the damper (I'm pretty sure there isn't a floating piston and foot valve on a $65/corner coilover) is usually fragile and can eventually rupture under prolonged abuse (or just from age).

If you want something other than a $10 spring on the damper (lowering springs are $40/set from Raceland), you obviously have to pay more money. A crappy damper can either work or not work, and probably won't cause a catastrophic loss of control, but a $10 spring of completely unknown quality and specification is not the safest thing I can think of..


I think it's incredibly ironic and hilarious that the VW wheel whore crowd (who turn up their noses at things like Rotas) would even consider putting something like those coilovers on their cars. Why is it almost mandatory to buy wheels for VWs that cost over $500 each (you want to run with the cool kids, right?), but perfectly acceptable to put a $65 coilover behind that wheel? Some of the BBS center caps cost more per corner than those coilovers..

Why get the most expensive wheels but the cheapest possible aftermarket [strike]performance[/strike] parts? Does that completely underscore what the VW scene is all about?


Not trying to be a dick Uzi, but "dampening" isn't what a coilover does. The coilover doesn't make anything wet, or even slightly moist.

nosediv3

i like the 245s

Uzi Crooklyn

here is the thing, i want a coilover that is going to go low, ride nice, for not alot of money, and these coilovers are perfect for this, you know just as well as i do that vw's are not prime for racing in, the expensive wheels are for just looks, thats all i like vw's for is looks, so i'm not going to buy (excuse my ignorance) 36 way adjustable dampening for me only putting it at one setting, all the way down. and if you ride in the rain your coilover will get damp

Fabrik8

You're saying "I'm buying this $260 set of coilovers because I don't want to buy a $2000 set of coilovers. There is a lot of middle ground. You could take a big jump in price and step up to Megan quality, which is kinda funny to say..

Uzi Crooklyn

well certain coilovers go lower then others. megan does not make a coilover that goes low enough for me, koni, kw, weitech, FK, and bilstein do not go low enough, K-sport, B&G, Vmaxx, Raceland, JOM, and a few others all go really low, thats really all i care about. i rode on coilovers that bounced me so high i've nearly hit my head on my roof, but it was low, and thats all i care about. so basically i could get 800 dollar coilovers that do the exact same thing, so i bought them, but i did not buy racelands, i bought vmaxx

D.Nick

I don't see why people are always so butt hurt about how other people choose to spend their money.

Uzi Crooklyn

because my coilovers cost half of what "good" coilovers are supposed to cost, means they are junk.

Archer

Some people say the same thing about the NEX coilovers I just bought. Sorry I drive a station wagon that is never going to end up on a track. I don't need to spend ~1500 on ground control w/ adjustable damping b/c their setup is way overkill for what I'm planning to do w/ my car.

If you're just into parking hard I don't see any reason not to go w/ a coilover like raceland. All of the reviews I've read have been pretty positive so I don't see what everyone is arguing about. Maybe they're onto something.. People are much more willing to risk not being satisfied w/ a ~$300 product than they are w/ a product thats over a thousand big ones. A lot of people have a problem pulling the trigger on something that pricey.

Uzi Crooklyn

right, they are on to something, people who just have street cars, that want a good stance don't need to spend alot of money on something they are just using to go low. and they don't need to cost a fortune either, they will sell a whole lot more, and in turn make more money IMO