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Old 05-16-2007 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamamaha
i always thought that fireballs came from unburned fuel that passed through the cylinder and creating the explosion in the exhaust from running rich. Kinda hard to believe its running lean and shooting fireballs.
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you have to have fuel to have a fireball
Old 05-16-2007 | 07:12 AM
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First thing I thought of was pc3 as well. My boy's Kawi 636 does it too and backfires like a bitch when he lets go of the throttle.
Old 05-16-2007 | 07:59 AM
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this is just how i would explain it from how i understand this stuff, might be totally wrong... but there is always unburnt fuel when you close the throttle, if your running rich there will be more of it but it will cause your exhaust temps to be lower and not burn, if your running lean your exhaust gas temps will be high enough to cause ignition when the unburnt fuel reaches the air outside of the exhaust
Old 05-16-2007 | 09:02 AM
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Default Re: bike shoots flames

Originally Posted by NoRider
oh alright, I've always heard that running lean could mess it up, didn't realize it had to be extremely lean to do it. Im assuming bikes dont have any emissions gadgets like cars do, so is it all basically exhaust and how your bike is running?

some bikes have more than others. harley's, for example, have closed-loop systems. most jap bikes are open loop, and the FI system can only compensate so much.


Originally Posted by Del La Sol 1320
this is just how i would explain it from how i understand this stuff, might be totally wrong... but there is always unburnt fuel when you close the throttle, if your running rich there will be more of it but it will cause your exhaust temps to be lower and not burn, if your running lean your exhaust gas temps will be high enough to cause ignition when the unburnt fuel reaches the air outside of the exhaust

that's a damn good way of putting it. you're about spot on.


Originally Posted by Yamamaha
i always thought that fireballs came from unburned fuel that passed through the cylinder and creating the explosion in the exhaust from running rich. Kinda hard to believe its running lean and shooting fireballs.

see above. backfiring, especially on deceleration, is usually a lean condition. but i understand why people would automatically think otherwise.
Old 05-16-2007 | 12:58 PM
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thanks for the help

but i have another question. do you think putting my velocity stacks in would cause me to run too lean?
Old 05-16-2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by slow4banger
thanks for the help

but i have another question. do you think putting my velocity stacks in would cause me to run too lean?

nope.

but with all the stuff you're doing to increase airflow in and out of the motor, you really should get a PC to match the fuel flow to the air flow.
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alright, i appreciate it
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