dsmx17

Oh wow, 190 fucking hp someone better watch out, that thing might go a nasty 13.xx, you might need to wear a helmet at the track. Oh snap!

non-vtecpower

reliably quick... You may not understand being a dsm owner..

idriveahonda

ZING!

Gotcha *****!

dsmx17

haha, you wanna know the funny part about that statement? I actually have a record holding STOCK bottom end car, has been for the last two years running RELIABLY im thinking it might be a little quicker than 190hp and just as, if not more reliable. lawlz.

1slocolt

Who uses onomatopoeias in a car forum?

Brandon, what do you expect from a bunch of honda owners? Not only do they think 190whp is nasty, but they actually think hondas are the pinnacle of reliability.

Jarrod

LOL! Whats even better is.

A) That motor is NOT making 190whp or anywhere NEAR 155tq.
AT ALL.

Not with that header or cams.

And it is not making anywhere near 155tq with that small of displacement.

Post pictures of the ported head.

OP. Unless you have the cams and valvetrain laying around to do it. Go with a vtec head. I had a 81.5mm NA LS motor that made 190whp and 141tq revving to 8400 and it made power to 8200. Power fell off but wasn't drastic enough.

All I did was port matched the head gasket wise. RMF header. 12:1 static compression. Crower 404s. Skunk manifold and 65mm throttle body.

I toy'd the idea of a 85mm x 89 mm non-vtec build using the p8r head and crower 405s but decided a turbo setup would be better to go fast.

Also. When I had my NA LS motor. It did not like to idle with the 404s, at 800rpms i'd have to blip it after letting it sit for a little bit or else it would fatten up and fall on it's face.

non-vtecpower

He asked about a All motor LS build, I posted mine. Its hard to get 200whp out of these motors N/A. I was in no way acting like im making crazy power. You just felt like being a dick. Oh snap!

madsteez

Here was my old build. If you want to make any kind of power MACHINE the hell out of the motor. Don't skimp out on upgrading the displacement and the amount of oxygen the motor can possibly get. Whatever you do get the head ported. Please do not be stupid and think the higher the compression the more power you get or you will end up blowing your motor up. I personally would not suggest running anything higher than 12.1 c/r pistons if you plan to daily drive the car.


Engine:

The bottom end was built by Abacus
-95 b18c1 block 81.5mm bore
-Eagle H beam connecting rods
-Cp 11.5:1 high compression pistons
-All acl Bearings
-Arp head studs
-Brand new Type R oil pump

-99 B16A2 Head
-RLZ Ported and Mild Polish (shiny polishing sucks for air/fuel mixture)
-Skunk 2 stage 2 tuner cams
-SuperTech Inconel Exhaust Valves
-SuperTech Black Nitraded Intake Valves
-5 Angle Valve "Job"
-PortFlow Inner/Outer Spring Set
-PortFlow Titanium Retainers
-Manley Hardened Steel Retainers
-Golden Eagle 3 ring cam seal
-Hondata intake manifold gasket
-Stock distributor with new cap and rotor
-AEB's polished intake manifold
-Type R throttle body and all other sensors
-440cc injectors from a ford lightning.


I made 212whp on a crappy 4-1 header with a 3 inch collector.

dsmx17

Pick a better platform?

madsteez

Put a 190whp all motor civic against your shit ass DSM with the same power to weight and let me know who walks who