Originally Posted by lanky189

i didn't say street car vs street bike...

take a C6r race car corvette, and a gsxr racing bike...the vetter will hang the turns tighter..i promise...the car has more contact patch touching the road..more power..and is less likely to spin coming off the turn thanks to the afore-mentioned contact patches and extra weight...


as to the biking comment...ah well...it's not gonna be closed to the public anytime soon...so as long as the bikes stay out of my way..and i stay out of theres....there will be no worries..

Originally Posted by lanky189

i didn't say street car vs street bike...

take a C6r race car corvette, and a gsxr racing bike...the vetter will hang the turns tighter..i promise...the car has more contact patch touching the road..more power..and is less likely to spin coming off the turn thanks to the afore-mentioned contact patches and extra weight...

Originally Posted by lanky189

if it were meant just for bikes..it wouldn't be public roads...besides..a properly built car can corner harder and faster than a properly built bike.

Originally Posted by mps165

To give you guys an idea of the difference in speed, Eric Bostrom had a pole time of 1:46.835 at Daytona this year. In happy hour this year at the Rolex 24 at Daytona, Tony Stewart ran a 1:49.422. To put it in another perspective, Marco Andretti ran a fastest lap of 2:11:542 at Daytona in a Skip Barber car (open wheel, wings, 150 HP, 1250 lbs fully fueled). Crappy (i.e. guys that are still way better than us) were running near 2:00.00 lap times at the Daytona 200 on superbike GSX-R1000s. And in the last perspective, the best SCCA raced prepared Mazda Miata (SSB class) at Daytona ran a 2:29.004. That is a huge difference to even the "shitty" superbike riders. Regardless of what is "faster" both cars and motorcycles are fun when driving at full speed. And believe me, a stock motorcycle goes through corners WAY faster than a stock car. There is one corner near where I live that my car (Camaro SS ~ .86 Gs on a skid pad) right before it starts to break away can manage maybe 102 mph. My bike, which I am not fully maxed out on, goes through the same corner over 130 mph. Mind you the bikes speedometer is off a good bit, but still. And this is a good comparison because I race cars and I know how to drive. Just thought I'd shoot my opinion.

Originally Posted by blah

Come on now, everyone knows cars are faster than bikes around a road course. Surely everyone has seen the TopGear episode. Straightline, I'd give the nod to the bike unless the car was just crazy retarded.

Originally Posted by IAmCman

Talking about this road as a public road would imply you WERE talking about street car.

Originally Posted by lanky189

ok so that fella said a stock car, a miata and a serverly underpowered open wheeler were slower than a bike...what about a real race car.. Corvette C5r, Porshe 911, etc... compare those lap times to those of the fastest bike class...you'll see what i mean.